California's Prop 8 protests may affect Sundance Film Fest

It would be disgusting to attend any festival in Utah. Discrimination is discrimination. To take our dollars and spend them in Utah? Why not just open camps for us so you don't have to continue to vote away our constitutional rights. Utah says we are "lesser than" -- put $22 million dollars into a neighboring state (not even their own!) to vote away our rights! What can be said? Foul? Shame? How about just boycott everything related to this dispicable state.

It seems the GBLT community not only wants to change the traditional definiation of "marriage," but also of the word "hate." Supporting the tradtional undertanding of marriage is very different from "hating" someone. The only ones guilty of hate are those who are intimidating people, vandalizing churches and acting like "thugs" to oppress those with whom they disagree.

I agree. For all their claims of being hated, they single out people who are fighting for a cause? Maybe they don't consider it hate because they are a minority and it's considered retribution. But it seems like gays will be known for their hate and intolerance of people that are trying to protect something that has been around for thousands of years. Especially against the mormons. I mean, the gays claim that they had no right to jump states and contribute (which the members of that faith did, not the church itself), and yet, here they are saying, "We're going to boycott mormon bands, businesses, and other people who contributed." And it's not considered bigoted? Seriously? If people got a list of gays and supporters of anti-Prop 8, and started boycotting gay things, they would be called bigoted and other terrible things. They would say that "you are singling out gays and being unfair". So apparently it's a one-way street. The minority can claim that other people hate them and are being bigoted, but when someone says that about them, everyone freaks out and cries intolerance? That's absolutely ridiculous.

When you ATTACK gay's/lesbian's families, and strip us of Constitutional RIGHTS under the equal protection clause...what would be YOUR responce?

hugs and kisses?

Utah and LDS elders are lucky it was queers they did this to. ANY OTHER MINORITY would have come back at you with torches and pitchforks.

We (LGBTs) will bankrupt your businesses, Cinemark, Irvine banks, ice cream parlors, and we will TANK 6 billion dollar UT tourism....and you will SHUT UP about it, knowing it could have been MUCH WORSE.

Brian show me ALL the things you purchased at any Gay owned businesses?

THAT is why OUR boycotts hurt you, and you can't financially TOUCH US!

As long as there is snow in Utah, there will be tourism. Sorry. This is just silly.

sam

there was snow in CO in the 1990's and they LOST over $40 million in tourism when the angered gays/lesbians and our friends.

still silly,,,,huh Sparky?
let me refresh your memory
"It's hard to tell. The residents of Aspen, known for their wealth, their redwood sun decks and their dedication to leisure, are divided and angry. The city voted overwhelmingly against Amendment 2, so many citizens don't understand how a boycott that includes them, let alone focuses on them, can be fair. The boycott has already cost the state as much as $20 million, with cancellations continuing to roll in at a rate of $500,000 a day, the amendment's opponents say. And as it becomes clearer that the effort is far more than a passing whim, people here are beginning to seethe in public. "
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE2DF1E3CF933A05751C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

and this sam.....possom

"Several cities, including Atlanta, New York and Seattle, have announced that no employees on city business will travel to Colorado. Groups as diverse as the National Council for Social Studies and the National Mayors Conference have canceled conventions. A California company, Xchange Computers, has decided not to build a plant in Colorado that it said would have meant $5 million in wages a year. "
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE2DF1E3CF933A05751C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

and ANOTHER thing
Colorado didn't involve a religion Civil Rights leaders, Women's Right's leaders on ERA, and stem cell supporters hadn't hated 40 years. Much of the initial force of the CO boycott was Hollywood celebs with CO second homes...UTAH attacked HOLLYWOOD itself. Finally one woman's website from Seattle unleashed 300 cities having demonstrations for marriage equality in all 50 States...yeah ONE website.
CO didn't have My Space or Facebook networking,,,be afraid,,,,be VERY AFRAID

"In the seven months since Amendment 2's passage, the Colorado Boycott has
garnered national attention and support. As of June 1993, more than 60
companies have canceled conventions or meetings in Colorado, and more than
110 groups have called for a boycott of Colorado to protest Amendment 2.
Some 20 U.S. municipalities have severed ties with Colorado because of the
anti-gay initiative. New York City has divested its stock holdings in any
Colorado companies, and canceled a contract for new municipal buses.
Ziff-Davis Publishing had planned to relocate their operations to Colorado;
in the wake of Amendment 2, they reconsidered, costing the state $1 billion
dollars in revenue over a five-year period had they chosen to operate in
the state. Good snow and papal visits notwithstanding, the Colorado Boycott
is resulting in long-term fiscal consequences for the state that voted
against civil rights."
http://www.qrd.org/qrd/orgs/NGLTF/ftr/action.kit/discrimination.costs-the.boycott.strategy

Brad and Brian, I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree. I think there is a huge difference between what the marriage equality movement calls hatred, and the way you have used the term.

Conservative groups often organise boycotts against brands, companies, even nations, whose interests run perpendicular to their own. Usually there is no hatred or retribution involved, but simply an unease with the idea of supporting an enterprise they feel has betrayed their cause or their rights. Boycotts are not about making people pay. They are about the consciences of the boycotters, and the message sent to everyone else. That message is the heart of any boycott. What we in the marriage equality movement would like to say with ours is, "We want you to have the right to marry; why can't you reciprocate? Please respect us as we respect you."

I read a few of the responses on this board and I cringe. It would be a colossal mistake for the marriage equality movement, gay and straight alike, to sound petty or vindictive about anything. We have to be careful to keep the concept of hatred where it belongs, and that means not bandying it about and giving you guys just cause to do the same. I apologise to you from my heart for rudeness you may have encountered-- just as I am sure you would do to me, for the rudeness of your own colleagues who call me "dyke" and threaten to beat me in the subway. I know they do not speak for the majority of "marriage traditionalist" Americans. You must know that the vast majority of marriage equality supporters have no personal quarrel with you, either.

Instead, we use the word 'hatred' to define the unwillingness of others to respect our equality as human beings. The determined closed-mindedness it takes to push an entire demographic of men and women out of what is, you have agreed, one of the building blocks of society: marriage. This is like being told that we are inferior and must give up our seats if a straight person boards a bus. Guys, this IS intolerance. And intolerance hits us in the face like hatred.

Let me repeat that we aim no hatred, no blind intolerance or intense unmitigated dislike, toward any of the people who disagree with us on the issue of Proposition Eight. They are and ought to be free to do and say what they wish, as long as it doesn't hurt others. They are people just like us. But when "traditionalists" tell us we cannot share the rights and protections of marriage because we are not their equals-- that hurts us. For this is something that many conservative straights (my parents among them) do not seem to understand: we are people just like them.

We are people just like you. As lesbian and gay Americans, we deserve equal rights, equal protections, and equal responsibilities under the law. And this is all we want. To be respected and to be relied on in the community and the nation. To live equally and without discrimination, side by side with you, until there is no reason to differentiate. To build our country together toward something less predatory, something stronger, something open, honest, and beautiful. This is not hatred. This is, I think, the opposite.

I wish you well. See you in the ring.

The Sundance Channel is blocked on my cable. It will stay blocked until the festival leaves Utah. There is no way to hold an event in that state without financing the racist, sexist, and homophobic crusades of the Mormon cult.