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I can’t quite explain why this band held so much appeal for my 10-year-old, straight-A-student self. Maybe it was that—compared to the neon teeny bop of ’80s pop stars like Debbie Gibson and Paula Abdul—it was dangerous and uninhibited and loud and dirty and it fucking rocked.
So I became a huge Guns fan: I secretly acquired dubbed copies of all their albums from my friends who had less-strict parents (if I’d gotten busted with those boob-laden liner notes and profane lyrics, I would’ve been in big trouble); I hypothesized with my peers around the school-cafeteria lunch table about the band’s drug intake, and whether Axl and Slash would live to be 30; I doodled GN'R’s logo and skull iconography all over my Trapper Keeper during social studies; and when I got home, I marched straight up to the bonus room over my garage and sat in front of the box, glued to MTV, hoping to catch the latest Guns video. Of course, I had to be ready to flip the channel at a moment’s notice if I heard my parents coming up the stairs. (One day, my dad totally busted me watching the “Patience” video, and at the worst possible moment—the part where Slash is lying in bed in some hotel room, playing with a python as countless scantily clad women get in and out of bed with him in a time-lapse montage. “What the hell is this garbage?!” he hollered over my shoulder, nearly stopping my heart. After that, no more TV in the bonus room.)
As I went through middle school and high school (and Axl went underground to begin toiling away on Chinese Democracy), Seattle grunge rock—and, later, jam bands—became my music of choice. With the ironic, fuzzed-out onslaught of Nirvana, and then my discovery of the musical acrobatics of Phish, Axl and the boys began to seem more and more lame and dated. Finally, my junior year, I sold all my GN'R tapes to some used record store so I could buy a Grateful Dead bootleg.
Toward the end of college, though, enough time had passed to where I’d once again started listening to some of the late-’80s hard-rock bands I used to love (GN'R, Poison, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Mötley Crüe, etc.), purely for the irony and nostalgia of it. But after a while, something unexpected happened. I realized, “Sure, maybe Bon Jovi and Poison are cheesy fun, but, man, I really, really like Guns N’ Roses. They were a truly great rock band.” In hindsight, GN'R’s music was obviously on another plane when compared to their contemporaries: it was more timeless, the musicianship was more raw and passionate, and far less showy. The pissed-off lyrics might not have been the greatest, but they perfectly fit the music’s urgent, train-coming-off-the-tracks feel.
Now, 14 years after the first Chinese Democracy session, with all of the band’s original members long gone (quitting in the late ’90s over Axl’s control issues), it’s just not the same. If all the demos I’ve heard over the last few years and the brand-new title track that was released yesterday are any indicator, the GN'R mojo is long gone, dissipated into the annals of rock like so much smoke wafting up to the ceiling at a mid-’80s Troubador gig. Somewhere along the way, Axl lost sight of what’s truly great about rock ’n’ roll: the off-the-cuff, reckless urgency that comes from nailing a liquored-up fireball-hot first take, live-in-the-studio with a handful of distinct musical personalities mingling and everyone playing all at once while feedback from the guitar amps filters over into the drum mics—you know, let it bleed, man! Let it be fleeting and nasty and filthy and real!
Guns N’ Roses was never a one-man show, it was a band. And what made them truly great was the way all the parts worked together—Axl’s screeching vocals and paranoid lyrics; Slash’s ripping yet tasteful guitar solos; the trebly, breakneck punk bass riffing of Duff McKagan; the thunderous rock drumming of Steven Adler, and later Matt Sorum; and the inventive rhythm playing and epic guitar hooks of Izzy Stradlin (who co-wrote most of the band’s songs, playing Keith Richards to Axl’s Mick Jagger). Sure, Axl was a big part of the equation, but he damn sure wasn’t all of it (like he seems to have psychotically convinced himself at some point during the mid ’90s). Imagine how much less cool Appetite for Destruction would’ve been if Axl had done it all by himself, slowly piecing the album together over a decade-and-a-half—painstakingly removing all of the blemishes, making sure every last note was in its place, and that every vocal take was just right until there wasn’t an ounce of soul left in the damn thing.


Steve,
You hit the nail on the head with this one and I know exactly where you're coming from. I'm a 30 y/o professional who has cherished GNR through the years (I even met Slash, Duff, and Matt twice!) and am cringing at this release.
I wish they'd put a notice sticker on the album cover saying something like "Warning: Original Members Not on This Album. Axl Only"
I truly would feel different if it was known as an Axl Solo record.
And for anyone who's heard the leaks, listen to the words. It should of been called the "Axl misses Stephanie Seymore" record since most of it seems to be written about her.
Excellent work....I hope this article spreads!
I would have to agree and disagree... Like the poster above, I also am a 31yr old GNR fan since the begining, and why this isn't the orignal band, I think the die hards knows this.
Can we not look at this as Axl Rose releasing an album under the name we have grown to love. I would never compare this to the first 5 GNR records, as it is a different lineup, different writers.
Axl is a good song writer, and I have heard the rest of the demos out there and as Chinese Democracy is one of the better songs on the album, there are other tunes that I think are equally as good.
Yes it has been a long drawn out process, and do I wish it was 1988 again and we could see the original 5 tearing it up on stage? You Betcha!
But it's not that way... Move on, get over the fact that they arent together and stop taking the easy approach and slam Axl becuase that is what the rest of the media is doing.
Steve LaBate is an idiot. Wouldn't know good music if it slapped him upside the head. This isn't the 80's moron. It's a differant era, and a differant band. I'm sorry, but I saw GNR 2 years ago and it was one of the best shows I've seen. Yes I saw them back in the 80's and they kicked ass then too. And it really is only axl that matters. Axl's voice is the band. Anyone can play guitar..(sorry slash), but it's the voice that carries the band. For example..Black Sabbath. They sucked without ozzy. Need I say more. Chinese Democracy is a great song. Can't seem to get enough of it. Better than anything I've heard on the radio in at least the last 10 years. And Steve LaBate, as Axl would say.. Suck my fuckin' Dick Asshole!
Nice post.
Axl missed his window for re-entry, and it's evident with this weak song. I barely made it through the 1:30 intro.
Sure, we fans would have been satisfied recollecting in tranquility the emotions GNR stirred in all of us back in the day. Like poetry with a python and a cigarette dangling from its mouth.
I think we would have even jumped on his train if there wasn't this enormous gap of time. Think about it: Third graders eventually applied to grad school while he fine-tuned his masterpiece.
I even think we would have been appeased talking about Chinese Conspiracy in "what-ifs" for the rest of our lives. It could have been that now-weedy plot of land cleared out on the old bypass that never saw a brick of development. Sure, it once was prime, but we all understood why no pipes were plumbed. No concrete poured. We all understood.
Now we have to confront this garbage, hear it, and judge it in its context.
Watch OUR disenchanted faces, Mr. Rose.
Ive seen guns in '88, '92 and '06 and let me tell you they sound fuller than ever before. and i think everyone who saw them in 2006 has agreed on that. Guns n roses has ALWAYS been a revolving group of players and any real guns fan would know that and the only one that has been at the forefront and better judgement of direction of it has been axl. and so rightfully so, axl saw fit that what ever happened to the GNR name he would make sure the fans could still get good solid proud of rock music from the band and not let it become something that would have sold out the name and hes done just that. And i could care less who buys the record cuz i know those songs are grand and i would benefit by seeing one of rocks biggest band and frontman up close and personal in smaller theater settings as oppose to killing my self trying to catch them at stadiums like back in the day. What you guys need to do is grow up and listen to the music and not some reckless behavior they used embrace. cuz you dont live like that anymore anyways too. so why should they? the are musicians and so listen to thier art. and like the commenter TOM said, axl is still bad ass and would invite you still to suck his F'n d*ck!!
Of course there's still a place for Axl. He's still got a lot of fans, if a lot of detractors. Listen, no one else would try something this big and dramatic and pretentious. So, that makes it something unique, I think. Everybody won't like it. It isn't subtle, at all. But there's a place for it.
Now, I have to defend the guy. You transcribed his lyrics wrong and then slammed them. Nice. Listen, sure he's not Yeats, but his lyrics are better than say and they sound good when he sings them. That's the point. Pop music isn't about the lyrics. One of the big mistakes in the modern world is adoring lyricists as if they had any literary talent. They don't. None of them do. It isn't ironic, who cares? Axl Rose needs to write songs like Of Montreal now?
Now, you cut on Axl for sounding like Nine Inch Nails. Come on. This sounds very little like Nine Inch Nails. You've got Of Montreal on the magazine cover and their new record is basically late 90s Beck and Sly Stone and the Beatles tossed together. It's still cool. But Axl isn't allowed to use computers?
So it doesn't sound like what you liked before you got too cool for Axl. That's fine, but it doesn't mean it's a bad song.
OK, so I corrected those few misheard lyrics, but I still think they're hilariously bad! Thanks for all the comments, though. I appreciate this kind of amped-up, fiery discussion... even from the people who wanna hurl nasty insults quoted from GN'R's "Get in the Ring" at me. Hell, I love that song!
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