Six Reasons Why Fall Out Boy Does Not Suck as Much as You Think

Remember when Wentz's penis was all over the internets? So far that's the best thing they've put out, and it was an accident. But sure, these millionaires deserve a "break" .

Man, those unoriginal bastards stole our idea! "Coffee is for Closers" was ripped off. My band, Attractive Eighties Women, has been performing a song called "ABC (Always Be Closing)" (which sets the words of Alec Baldwin's Glengarry Glenross speech to music) for almost two years!

To "C": I doubt very much that you've listened to every FOB song, so you really can't comment on "the best thing they've put out".
To the writer of the article: Thankyou for being one of the few journalists(?) who is willing to be fair to Fall Out Boy, and not just criticise based on what everyone else says about them, because they really are one of the best, and most interesting, rock acts around at the moment. And of course, Coffee's For Closers is my favourite song off of FAD.

alice.

I can't belieeve how much these guys suck. They're the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. Oops! Got to go. My damn weiner kids are looking at me.

And you think it's a GOOD idea to put Lil Wayne on your album? Sure, if you can't make it on your own.

Any association w/ Ashley Simpson gets you sand paper for a taint cloth.

And FYI, ABC is way better than anything FOB has ever put out.

no, they still suck. they threw in their lot with Mtv. that aside, their music sucks.

They are so very adolescent, which can be good sometimes, but in this case no, they are annoyingly adolescent

jonas brothers
miley cyrus
blink 182

there's your 3 bands under 30. i know that blink isn't around anymore, so sub in john mayer. so that would be 4. try again.

hmmm, miley cyrus, john mayer isnt a band...................

Common sense: Good try, but your wrong.

1. Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus are pop, not rock.
2. John Mayer is over 30 and he is not a band.
3. blink182 broke up, and are now over 30, so that cannot count as it isn't a current band.

Try again.

Too bad no one gives a monkeys dong about your band steve labate

I can only name one: My Chemical Romance.
I love both of these bands even though they're very different.
Everyone should just stop hating and focus on what they LIKE rather than what they don't like. If you don't like FOB, fine, great, good for you. But why do you have the need to go around telling everyone how much they suck? They might suck to you, but to maaaany other people out there, they don't.
Respect others peoples opinions.

dude calls them unoriginal. but his band just took a speech from a movie and put music to it? touche, mr original. Also, your band sucks.

Re: Other bands that can headline arenas:

The Killers
Paramore
Kings of Leon
Panic! at the Disco
The Fray
All-American Rejects

Howsaboot Sum 41? Silverchair?

Number 6 is a stupid point. It wont even be true in June :

"Name three other American rock bands with members under 30 years old that can headline arenas Can't do it? Try naming two. How about one?"

Okay, sure:
1. Linkin Park
2. My Chemical Romance
3. Panic at the Disco

#1 and #2 are fact. I know those out of experience. As for #3, I'm sure it could happen.
=)
Nice try, Paste.

Wentz looks like a tranny with that eyeliner. Sheesh...would someone get him a cock to suck on already. Err...he already has Ashlee's, nm

You forgot to mention the lyrics. No band in a long time has lyrics as complexed and thought out as Fall Out Boy, check the whole collection. FACT!

Alix, can you seriously not read the criteria before posting a response? Let's go on a journey of why you're wrong.

1. Linkin Park - over 30.
2. My chemical romance - over 30.
3. panic - hasn't headlined arena tours.

Looks like you're SOL with your choices.

Why does everybody hate on FOB? I just don't get it.

Van Halen.
Wolfgang Van Halen is actually under 20.

2) They have great taste in collaborators. Would Lil Wayne and Elvis Costello have agreed to guest on Folie a Deux if the band was so awful?

Yes. It's called money.

Thank you for writing this article. It's seriously time to get over hating this band people-that is sooooo '05. If you don't like their music, good for you! Everyone has a right to their opinions. But if so, why would you waste your time posting comments about how much they suck because you think Pete Wentz wears too much eyeliner? They're a respected band that treats their fans well and has nothing but good intentions. You won't be able to prove otherwise, but if you really want to believe they're self-absorbed millionares, go right ahead.

Taking Back Sunday

"Howsaboot Sum 41? Silverchair?"

Yeah, except... sum 41 are from Canada and Silverchair are from Australia, not very American.

I think all you guys are douche bags.
So he doesn't have good point in his reasonings, so what? If you don't like their freaking music stop obsessing over it, because you obviously are wanting to read this article in the first place even though you don't like the band. Grow up and find something better to do than complain about music you don't like.

I think all musicians are good; even ones I'm not fond of.
Hey, they've got a hell of a lot more talent than half of America, who are too lazy to learn how to play an instrument.
To me, anyone who can play and instrument, or even sing decently do not suck.

"Name three other American rock bands with members under 30 years old that can headline arenas"

My Chemical Romance counts, because you didn't say ALL members. Some of them are under 30, and none of them are over 30. A few of them are exactly 30.
By the way, I understand that the info in the link below is from 2007 but that doesn't matter because if you want ages from 2008 or 2009, just do some math and you'll find out some of them are still under 30.
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5051856748

@Anonymous: "but if you really want to believe they're self-absorbed millionaires"
I don't but I don't like their music. About respecting other people's opinions, apparently the author of this article doesn't know how to, because in the 1st reason, you said if I can't get behind those particular songs there's something wrong. I could go up to an old man who likes old songs from 40-50 years ago, make him listen to those songs and tell him, "If you can't get behind these songs there's something wrong." Sure, I may not be an old man, but that doesn't mean I have to like this CD. Just accept that there are other people in the world with different tastes in music and just stop thinking too much about it. Same to the people saying that FOB sucks, if that's what you believe, that's great. Spreading your opinion is great but unfortunately in this world, saying what you think offends someone and it turns into a fight between "FOB's the best" and "FOB sucks." Go ahead and spread your opinions, I'm not telling you to stop, I just think it's better if everyone doesn't take everything they see or hear so personal.

Also, I don't have anything particular against Fall Out Boy. Their debut, Take This to Your Grave, was in my opinion the best thing they put out. You might think Folie a Deux is, but I think TTTYG is so don't bother commenting telling me that I have no taste in music or shit like that because it won't change my mind and you would have just wasted 30-60 seconds typing something I don't give a shit about. Every other CD they put out after that eventually only had a few songs that I liked until I lost interest completely. See ya!

...and that attitude is exactly why this is an article about Fall Out Boy and why music as a whole isn't nearly as good as it used to be.

Just to clarify, I didn't say that if you don't like them you have bad taste in music. I tried to make clear that everyone has a right to their own opinion, and I respect that. It just seems that a lot of the people who claim they make horrible music or are heartless celebrities probably have heard three songs and know that the bassist posted nudes on the internet, so they decide to hate :)

alice(ruthless), you're right.
you stick up for all my favourite bands. FOB are great at what they do and i really dont understand why some of these people are wasting their time talking about this and bashing their music when they dont even like it. honestly, go find a better way to spend your life(common sense).
i thoroughly enjoy their music.

I wouldn't say "Folie A Deux" was outstanding. Fall Out Boy have done better, and hopefully will do better in the future. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the band but I thought the only half decent track on the whole think was "$20 Nose Bleed", and even then, it was Brendon Urie's vocals that saved it (he's clearly repenting for Pretty.Odd.)

Hmm, big American rock bands under 30 that can sell out arenas?

How about My Chemical Romance? Granted, Gerard Way is 31, but Frank Iero is only 27, Mikey Way is 29, Ray Toro is 31 and Bob Bryar is only 29 - so the majority of them are under 30.

I think its pretty funny how all of the Fall Out Boy haters are on here saying how badly they suck and what not. If they suck so badly why are you 'wasting' your time reading this article about them.

Your all a bunch of immature kids.
And... #6 was probably something spur of
the moment. The author was probably saying
that Fall Out Boy is good enough to make
the arenas when their under 30. Jeeesh people.

@it's as if you can't read... (great nickname by the way, really describes yourself)

Both Linkin Park and MCR have members that are in their 20s. Maybe next time, instead of questioning my literacy, you should know what the hell you're talking about.

As for Panic at the Disco, I'll admit that that was only a guess - I was not aware they had never done a headlining tour before - but I'm sure if they were to go on one they could manage to sell places out.

Thanks for your little "journey" dumbass. Appreciated.

i will always love FOB.FAD was amazing.
and MCR is over 30.Blink 182 broke up.and The Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus REALLY do suck,and they are POP music.Paramore is fantastic,but i dont think they have headlined yeah,nor PATD.
so,yeah.i cant think of anything.
FOB is awesome.end of story. :]

Fall Out Boy suck...

The end.

STOP hating on bands because they are successful, turn this record on and if you don't enjoy the first song, listen to it when your cool hipster friends arent around if you have too, this album is great, they took a huge leap, Patrick stump shreds vocals, sometimes a bit too much, but the cd kicks ass, this review is 100 on point in my eyes, except i actualy enjoyed the single a bit, even tho it has the same rhythm section as X-Tinas new track.

Clear your mind when you listen to this record, i promise youll enjoy it..i commented on this simply because falloutboy is still playing rock and roll..thank god somebody is...and i think Patrick Stump is one of the few talented people to come out in the last 10 years...

It's always funny to see "rock" fans claiming that "so-and-so" is "pop" and not "rock," so please don't say that they compare to my favorite "rock" band.

It's "pop" as in "popular." That's all. Even the British understand that and they haven't figured out much of anything.

So, your favorite "rock" band is "pop" music. Sorry, I hate to break that to you. I know that "rock" is all that some of you youngsters cling to as a way to pretend that you aren't just simpering hipsters who are secretly happy that they can try to claim some cred for listening to crap just because it was in an iPod commercial or maybe because it helps sell Hyundais. Or whatever other reason you might have.

Still, this is the type of rubbish that I like to read from time to time. It reminds me not to be upset that Paste didn't hire me so that I don't have to defend my employer and/or myself from my even-more-music-snobby-than-I friends.

(oh, and because I really am just a total sellout, dear paste: I am available).

Ashbury will be selling out areans with there music soon www.myspace.com/ashburyrock

Ashbury will be selling out areans with there music soon www.myspace.com/ashburyrock

@ mat catastrophe-
"Even the British understand that and they haven't figured out much of anything."
Why thankyou so much for insulting British people.
I was under the impression the comments were about this article, and not about Britain.
I'm British(English, to be precise) and I actually can figure things out thanks.
Maybe you could think before typing things like that.
And, as an afterthought-all the haters on here: Why are you commenting on how FOB are crap, dochey, sellouts and such, when you've obviously read the article?
That really doesn't make much sense.
/rant over.

The Killers headline arenas? After the crapfest of their last album? Please.
Same for the AAR. I think you're living in 2005-6 still, bro.

I'd also like to mention that PATD's fanbase decreased quite a bit since PO whether you liked it or not, other people didn't. Also, I believe Paramore's not big enough to headline arenas.

At least one reviewer pouted that the band's addictive new album Folie a Deux, is too ambitious. Oh, please. Does anyone say that about Radiohead or Animal Collective, or any of the sanctified indie saints?

http://is.gd/iq33

"With Merriweather Post Pavilion, Avey Tare, Panda Bear and Geologist (Deakin sat this one out) craft their most complex and ambitious album."

http://is.gd/iq3R

"Pablo Honey was a spotty affair, but Yorke's soaring, Bono-esque voice and the instrumental prowess of the band pointed to Radiohead's more ambitious second outing, The Bends."

Don't ever compare Fall Out Boy to Animal Collective or Radiohead. Or good music in general.

I have never really been exposed to Fall Out Boy, but I will definitely give them a try after reading this article.

What I have to contribute to this discussion is you are correct. I have steered away from FOB because a lot of my more musically-inclined friends have told me to and I listened to their opinions because they have their good points as do the author of this article. But you raise interesting arguments such as the undying sentiment of the "sellout band" rejected from the "indie" community. One commenter said something about certain pop music still classified as rock. I think I agree with that.

Anyway, for those of you who keep saying, "why would you read this article if you don't like FOB," read the title of this article. It's obviously targeted to people who don't like Fall Out Boy.

I'm not sure how old they are, but MMJ just killed MSG. And is selling out arenas a sign of success? What about longevity? Skill? Talent? Universal appeal has never had a coralation to talent. More often than not, it's just a MTV repackaging of an earlier group.

Fall Out Boy sucks.

This is why I like Paste. So much of music journalism right now is made up of a bunch of writers who just like the sound of themselves writing. They're the same people who laugh at their own jokes. They say things to say things, taking whatever Pitchfork or Blender wrote and adding their own whiny voice to it because if they broke from the pack they'd be considered fools.

But it's a fine day when music journalists can say something good about a band instead of just following suit.

I don't like Fall Out Boy. But I like my criticism down-to-earth.

Good job.

Alright this person who left this put this perfectly wow i love people who complain about rockstars getting famous and getting on mtv and then do not even listen to the albums listen to the albums how come none of the rappers or other rock stars get in trouble for selling out? but "punk" sells out if they get famous give me a break people fall out boy is talented patrick can sing better than any of you without attempting plus play guitar better and pete granted not a great bass player but wow can he write some awesome lyrics try it morons you can't do it

FOB is great. I'm in my 30s...been listening to punk and emo bands for over 15 years...and FOB is the BEST I have seen come from that corner of the musical landscape. Best lyrics, best vocalist, concise songwriting, and tight playmanship. And how often can you say a band has gotten BETTER with each release?

love FOB.. but I've seen Avenged Sevenfold, My Chemical Romance, and The Used, all of which at the time were all under the age of 30, pack a 20k seat Arena, aswell. Other than that i fully agree.

I have to point out that their tours are complete losses money wise, headlining act or no. Pollstar.com, people.

dear "common sense"
you are a complete idiot.
how dare you compare:
jonas brothers
miley cyrus
blink 182
to the magic of a real, lovable, band, that doesn't make my ears bleed, as the afformentioned do(with the exception of most blink 182 songs.)
Learn a lesson in Rock'n'Roll.
miley cyrus is NOT included in this category, nor is she worthy of mention, neither are the jonas brothers.
WTF.

All I can say is "AMEN!" to everything this article has to say. I'm sick and tired of "cool people" being too good for popular music in whatever genre it might be. You don't have to be an INDIE band to be good!!!! What the hell is the point of making music if NO ONE EVER HEARS IT??????

not a fan of the lyrics (sorry, Pete Wentz, they sound like high school)

some of the music is fairly catchy, but I find it annoying to listen to a song knowing that its words were "texted" onto the cd liner notes (looking at you, thAnks fOr thE mEmOrIEs!)

But hey, more power to them. However, I wish they'd stop collaborating with a bunch of artists like every rapper in the known universe does...you're your own band!

Still, gotta give 'em kudos for breaking out of the indie mold and making it big--I don't hold it against them.

And one final note: I don't think they can be labeled as "rock" anymore. Pop, yes. Rock? No.

who cares if those who hate the band bothered to read the article and have an opinion about it? it doesn't necessarily mean that they have nothing better to do. if you like the fall out boy and posted a lengthy comment about how awesome they are, you had nothing better to do as well.

now, i'm not hear to say that FOB sucks or that they make incredible music. they do neither. they're just a band who happens to make tolerable music in every other 5 songs or so.

Wow .. great articel .. got some heated responses .. love it

" I dont care what you think as long as its about me."

Pete Wentz has already roasted all the haters.

You all have fell into the web, love em, or hate em, your all still talking about them. Fall Out Boy wins, because the Haters (the other team) keeps scoring for them.

Thanks for being a Hater idiots.

This is a fantastic article. Fall Out Boy doesn't suck at all.

And as far as I'm concerned, none of you dickwads have given me a reason why they would suck.

Even if you don't like their music, at least show some goddamn respect.

One thing I don't agree with, though.
I LOVE "I Don't Care".

this points out some decent reasons not to hate them on a personal level, but it doesn't deal with the fact that their music just kinda sucks.

Common Sense,
BLINK 182 IS BACK! CELEBRATE! forget fallout boy; blink is back in action.

falloutboyrox,
get a fucking life. and stop getting worked up just because some people dont share your shitty taste in music.

Well, I always have hated Fall Out Boy... But not for being successful, rather being too pop-ish boy band-ish. I mean, I haven't listened to their album and I don't plan too. As for the collaborators, you got me on Elvis Costello, but as for Lil' Wayne, come on. I wouldn't even put him on the same tier as Fall Out Boy. We're talking about a guy who puts sound clips and bass together and then talks on it while high and calls it a song. Wtf is that???
And as for the "rare-breed" thing, i can name several. Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Coldplay, The Killers, Muse, Paramore, Radiohead, The Strokes, System of a Down, The White Stripes, etc, etc, etc. the list goes on. Nick Marino, I have nothing against your "taste" in music, but consider yourself thoroughly licked. :P

~Stropko

NOW AMATURES....

HERE IS THE REASON YOU SHOULD NEVER SAY ANY SINGLE BAND "SUCKS" EVER AGAIN.

FIRST, ALL OF YOU, HAVE NOT THE FIRST CLUE HOW TO WRITE A POP (POP...IN YOUR DEFINITION...CRAP) SONG (PLEASE DO NOT POST BACK AND PROVE YOU DO BY SAYING "ALL YOU NEED IS A ONE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX MINOR PROGRESSION..."). MOST OF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT AN AMAZING MELODY IS. REMEMBER THE BOYBANDS? I GUARANTEE YOU WILL SCREAM "NO" WHEN I TELL YOU THAT THOSE MELODIES WERE GENIOUS...MELODIES NOW...NOT PERFORMANCE...NOT THE BAND...UNDERSTAND?

SECOND, "THE SCENE" DOES NOT NEED YOUR OPINON OR LOYALTY. YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVED THAT YOUR OPINION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A JUNIOR VARSITY LOOK....YOU CALL PEOPLE DOUCHE'S FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. JUST SHUT UP AND CONSUME.

THIRD, MOST OF YOU ARE HYPOCRITES. MOST OF YOU SCREAM IN THE FACE OF POPULAR MUSIC AND THEN GO PUT ON 50 CENT'S "IN DA CLUB." DO NOT LIE. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I HAVE ALREADY SPENT TO MUCH TIME ON THIS POST. PLEASE, DO ALL OF US A FAVOR. UNTIL YOU HAVE A LOGICAL ARGUMENT OR OPINON, UNTIL YOU CAN DEBATE WITHOUT USING THE WORDS "DOUCHE" OR "SUCK"...PLEASE KEEP YOUR TIRED OPINIONS TO YOURSELVES.

Attractive Eighties Women constantly rip FOB off ... they're basically a F.O.B.C.B. (Fall Out Boy Cover Band).
Mack Williams is especially fond of immitating Pete Wentz - in college he would flop his enormous johnson at the drop of a camera phone.

no they suck and will always suck, unless of course you are a fat ugly female teenager that doesn't know shit about music. then they are great.

Where the hell did Paste find this guy? That's the weakest defense since the video of that kid getting all weepy about how cruel the press is to Britney.

Honestly, I don't think you needed to write this article. I mean, true, Fall Out Boy doesn't suck, but let the haters hate. Fall Out Boy gets the last laugh, look at their concert and album sales. Even if everyone doesn't love them, a hell of a lot of people do, and that's all that matters. Can't please everybody. I have heard people call Panic! at the Disco hacks and I think they are one of the few inventive bands from our generation. Do I care what people say? No, I mean, I've seen them seven times live, how many people really care enough about a band's music to follow them that closely? Half the people talking on here have probably heard two or three Fall Out Boy songs and are therefore not experts. Rock on Fall Out Boy!

Nick Marino is a moron, the kind of guy who writes these silly things to try to convince himself that he deserves to be taken seriously as a writer, too. The fact that he's actually an editor at Paste calls into question the whole direction of the publication. But at least now it's clear why the magazine has become progressively more and more lame since he joined the team. Thanks for ruining a good magazine, Nick. Now be quiet. The adults are talking.

I just honestly do not like their songs. They are catchy and because of that I'll catch myself singing along in the car..but that doesn't mean i like them. They aren't original because if you listen to the other bands considered part of their genre, they all sound the same. Gah I hate them.

Fallout Boy is soo not rock. Selling out arenas doesn't have to mean they are considered a "good band". Miley Cirus can probably sell out areans. And I don't care about whether it's on MTV or not, I don't care about "selling out". I think their songs are dribble. The whiny stuff emo teenage girls listen to when they boy they like doesn't like them back. (I've met a lot of whiny teenage girls that LOVE fallout Boy.) I am so disappointed with the music today-that includes most of the stuff on the radio. Booo.

Fall Out Boy doesn't suck as much as I think because:

1) Nick Marino likes the new Fall Out Boy album.
2) Other pop musicians like Fall Out boy.
3) Nick Marino thinks Fall Out Boy is funny.
4) Nick Marino likes Pete Wentz.
5) Fall Out Boy likes their fans.
6) Fall Out Boy is popular.

I'm not moved.

Fall Out Boy is a pop band with members who may or may not be talented; the problem is they are generic and their message is non-existent. Any musical ability the band members might secretly possess is easily hidden by their mostly successful attempts at convincing teenage girls that banality depression and mediocrity are desirable character traits.

So if all you people think fall out boy suck so much why even bother leaving comments on this or even reading it for that matter? you probably secretly like their music thats why you can't stop talking about them this blog is great they made some very good arguements they do treat their fans wonderful i've met pete and joe on several occasions they are the coolest people you will ever meet pete even remembered me and stopped what he was doing just to come say hi.but the fact is music is subjective you don't get to decide for everyone who sucks and who's cool your kinda wasting yor time by coming here cause you know your mind is not going to be changed by this blog so why give the band you despise so much the time of day Go listen to some music you actually enjoy and leave us alone

Man this article is stupid. Fall Out Boy is an MTV pop band, nothing more. Much like the Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, etc. They can all fill up arenas of prepubescent teens, that does not make them a good rock band. They care more about being popular and their image than they do about the music, and they are a perfect representation of everything that is wrong with popular music today. The most talented bands aren't the popular ones anymore, like they were in the 60's, 70's, and partially in the 80's and 90's. The last good rock band to get hugely popular was probably the Foo Fighters, and they're not anything too special but at least they have talent and passion for music.

What's wrong with them? They're absolutely awesome. Their songs are amazing, they're great people ( I saw them at o2 6th march), and they have great musical taste. I honestly don't get what people think they suck.

OH SHUT UP!!!!!!11
this is one of the stupidest arguments ive EVER heard of! WHY??? personally, i like fall out boy. They're one of my fave bands. They're not GREAT at going live but their lyrics are deep and they create music. patrick stump is especially a musician.... he plays trumpet and such of the like...he knows how to read music obviously...unlike those dumbass guitar players who only use tabs. i mean, wtf, might as well learn the music, rite?
well, anyway.....fall out boy is a great band. not because they're popular, but because they can get off they're ass and PLAY SOME MUSIC!

You haters should actually listen to their songs, accept the fact that they DO have fans that like their music and not judge them by looks or who they're dating. They make music for people who ENJOY their music and if you don't like their music, don't even try to comment stuff like that you hate their music because that is just a waste of time. They're like Marmite, like it or hate it.

I absolutely listen to fall out boy...when no one is around.

I've yet to hear more than 2 songs off FAD

popular music today is soooo horrible. No variety and no original talent.

With that small rant out of the way, I will never admit to my friends that I like some of Fall out Boy's songs. I would be ostracized for the mere thought.

FOB: They Suck & They GAY!

Dumbass article if i ever saw it.

"They're an increasingly rare breed—that is, a massively popular rock band"

No. 1 - Fall out boy is NOT a rock band..they are a pop band, rock today is Muse, Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian, Rage Against the Machine and the list goes on...

Just because they are under 30 doesnt make them amazing because the play in an Arena...their simple music is made for 13 year old adolescent girls who take in a remotely attractive guy to make their musical choice...

Yes elvis costello would join them if they're so horrible...its called money..thats what got FOB here today..money

From the word go this article is flawed..FOB is not rock its pop...how can a band not suck because they're funny? wtf???? Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

Finally pete wents is not a genius...3 power chords per song, lyrics about depression, look attractive, play a 3 note solo...GENIUS! The next John Lennon....

lol @ this band.

Headlining bands under 30? Let's try one of the biggest bands in the world right now:
-Kings of Leon; all under 30. one of the highest grossing tours of the year.

-Rise Against all but one are under 30, and yes, they do sell out concerts really well.

-Linkin Park. Albeit that some of them are over thirty...its an average thing. Besides they were selling out arenas since 2002, back when they were all well under 30.

yall are just a bunch of haters SHUT UP your just jealous ! and leave fall out boy alone theyve been through alot and they dont need ur stupid inmature jealous gay input !!!! i love fall out boy ! keep making music YOUR WAY and dont let anyones jealousy get in YOUR way PEACE!!!!! (and their music is AMAZING and so keep it up and all you haters shut up !!!!) ALSO ashlee simpson is a nice person and OBVIOUSLY pete doesnt care if she lip syncs !!!!! and u guys shouldnt either so go get LIVES and quit blogging on computers bye !!!!

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This band could have released the exact same songs for the last 4 or 5 years and had they not been put on a pedestal by teenage girls, they probably wouldn't get half the shit that they do.

When I look at how this band's image is projected and who their obvious target market is (teenage girls), it is easy for me to understand why they are hated the way they are.

But when I look at the history of the band and the scene they came from and how they got to where they are, I have trouble hating them.

You know there were a LOT of people in the 60's and 70's who absolutely HATED The Beatles simply because they were the poppy band all the teenage girls liked. I'm not saying that FOB will one day be revered as highly as The Beatles (because that's just ri-goddamn-diculous). But I have a feeling that in 10 or 15 years that they will not be looked at nearly as harshly as they are now.