EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: SongWriter Season 5 Launches with Cheryl Strayed, MILCK
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SongWriter is a podcast that turns stories into songs, featuring Questlove, David Gilmour, Joyce Carol Oates, Steve Earle, Roxane Gay, Amanda Shires, Susan Orlean, and Katie Melua. You can hear an exclusive preview of next week’s episode featuring Cheryl Strayed and MILCK only at Paste.
Season 5 of SongWriter launches next week with an episode that grapples with the complicated mechanics of forgiveness. Bestselling author Cheryl Strayed returns for another letter from her celebrated collection, Tiny Beautiful Things, which has just been adapted into a television series for Hulu. The letter is a meditation on self-forgiveness, and explores how forgiving yourself for past mistakes can be a doorway to forgiving others.
“The minute I can say to myself ‘I can be forgiven, because what’s true is that I know I was doing my best,’” Cheryl says, “I can grant that to other people, too.”
The episode began as a panel at the First Annual Global Scientific Conference on Human Flourishing, which was convened by the Templeton World Charity Foundation. Along with Cheryl’s reading, the episode includes the perspective of an expert on the science of forgiveness, Dr. Suzanne Freedman. Dr. Freedman points out that forgiveness is often misunderstood—forgiving someone doesn’t mean reconciliation, and it doesn’t mean forgetting.
“Some people think, ‘Well, I haven’t forgiven because I still think about it,’” Dr. Freedman says. “You’re never going to forget a deep hurt.”