The Softies Make Their Own Rules

Back with their first new album in over two decades, beloved Pacific Northwest twee pop duo Rose Melberg and Jen Sbragia talk growing up, standing out and giving punks something to cry to on The Bed I Made.

The Softies Make Their Own Rules

As afternoon fades to early evening on Saturday of Pitchfork Music Festival, I make my way to the shrouded Blue Stage to catch a set from Bratmobile with Lou, my best friend of six years and counting. When he and I first met in college, we bonded over a shared adolescent love of riot grrrl bands—me, a lifelong New Yorker and him, a Seattle kid who came up in the Bandcamp generation of the Northwest DIY scene, with the proverbial sons and daughters of the musicians that created Washington’s indie rock empire in the ‘90s. It was a lineage of music that Lou used to blast from a speaker in his college dorm room while we sat on the floor eating shitty pizza, sifting through his collection of zines and weird postcards, occasionally leaning out his open window to blow smoke or eavesdrop.

Lou and I have been living in different cities for a while now, but every time we reunite it feels like we’re back on our college campus, and it’s unfathomable that I’ve spent nearly a year being unable to just walk down the street and knock on his door whenever I feel like bugging him. On my first night in Chicago, at a corner booth in a dive bar that’s about to be sardine-packed with people, I polish off an Old Style and end some anecdote with “God, aren’t you so happy we aren’t 21 years old anymore?” It feels a little dumb to say this, as we’re both 25—how far removed from your early 20s can your mid-20s really be?—but I’m still young enough to mean it. When Lou and I first met, Bratmobile had been broken up for more than a decade, and seeing them live felt like something we’d need a time machine for. But here they were, sunlight reflecting off Allison Wolfe’s sequined dress, plastic multi-colored novelty shades perched on the nose of each band member, ready to spit grrrl germs right in our faces.

Joining them on the guitar is Rose Melberg of the Softies—a band I’m pretty sure I first heard in Lou’s dorm. Rose had informed me of her upcoming P4K Fest performance when I spoke with her and her bandmate Jen Sbragia over Zoom the previous Wednesday. Earlier in the summer, the Softies announced their signing to Father Daughter Records and began releasing singles from The Bed I Made, their first album in 24 years. During their hiatus, the two remained best friends, but they also stayed busy—with kids, jobs and playing in other bands. “I’d been saying for years, ‘I think the world needs another Softies record,’” Rose tells me. I went into this interview already agreeing that the world has, in fact, needed another Softies record for quite some time now. But I came out of it understanding that—maybe even more than anyone else—the Softies needed another Softies record, too.

Jen and Rose both lost their mothers in 2022, shortly before writing and recording The Bed I Made. “Grief is an amazing opener,” says Rose, “We were both extremely raw and we sought a lot of comfort from each other. I think the album really came from this revitalized emotional connection between me and Jen.” Not only were the feelings of mourning still fresh, but they dredged up old memories, forcing Rose and Jen to look at pieces of their pasts in a new light. Losses like theirs are totalizing, and they have a way of making the past seem as mercurial and unpredictable as the future. On the opening track of The Bed I Made, titled “Go Back In Time,” the shadow of grief darkens all that surrounds it, turning time into a shapeless sludge: “Weeks and then months became one awful year, watched the light disappear from everything.”

“We had different relationships with our moms, so our grief was different, but the same,” Rose affirms. “It was what pulled our hearts back together.” Grief and extended time apart changed the Softies’ songwriting process in ways that neither Jen nor Rose could have ever anticipated. Both band members agree that The Bed I Made is the most collaborative album they’ve put out; in some ways, it’s the first where there aren’t clearly distinguished “Jen songs” and “Rose songs”—ones whose lyrics, melody and guitar parts had been written by just one band member before the two met up in the studio to add harmonies together. Rose describes the process behind their latest album as “looser” than their previous material: “Jen would have a riff and I would expand on the riff, or Jen would write half the song lyrics and I’d write the rest. We’d never collaborated on lyrics before.”

Jen and Rose traveled back and forth between their respective homes of Portland, Oregon and Vancouver, British Columbia, sometimes meeting in the middle and booking studio time in Seattle—doing anything they could to keep up the momentum they’d been building. While they were apart, they recorded demos on GarageBand—Rose on her laptop, Jen on her iPad. “I’m planning to get a new laptop, for the next one,” Jen says. Their comeback record is still weeks away, but after re-opening the floodgates, the Softies are already thinking ahead. Their excited back-and-forth chatter sounds like a band remembering just how much they love making music together. Rose smiles. “Once we remembered we could do it, we wanted to keep doing it.”

The songs on The Bed I Made don’t sound all that different from the Softies’ earlier material—they sound like a band doing what they do best, returning more confident in their strengths than ever before. “Deep Softies,” as Rose calls it: “Deeper into our partnership and our friendship and our style of existing together, when we’re together. And it’s something special when we get together because we’ve been friends for so long.” Or as Jen puts it, they “marinated for longer. “We’re the soy and ginger sauce that’s been sitting in the fridge,” she says.

It feels like a tired gimmick to overemphasize the very real but often-shallowly invoked “power of friendship” in a band profile or, as is often the case with bands whose members are women, to let their friendship overshadow their musicianship in a reductive, infantilizing way. But a profile of a band like the Softies—a group so singular in their history, ethic and cultural niche—would be incomplete without discussing the lasting power and profundity of Jen and Rose’s friendship. The two connected after the dissolution of Rose’s previous band, Tiger Trap, and signed to famed Olympia label K Records for their debut album It’s Love, an essential in the twee-pop canon. At the time, Jen was in Portland and Rose was still living in Northern California, where both of them had grown up. When Rose joined Jen in Portland, the two met Elliott Smith—who they still consider a kindred spirit—and toured with him in 1996.

The Softies’ formula is simple and always has been: Two guitars, two voices. Their pillowy pop songs are short, melodic and usually about falling in or out of love. Though both Jen and Rose had played in punk bands and, in Portland in the ‘90s, shared scenes and stages with the pioneers of riot grrrl and grunge, the Softies were always a bit of an odd band out. They weren’t a controversial band by any means; it was their lack of abrasiveness that set them apart. While their peers made music that was brash, loud, angry and provocative—music that both Jen and Rose loved—the Softies embraced sensitivity and a gentler, sweeter sound. They describe themselves as “a pop band with punk ethics.” Inspired by artists like Linda Smith and Marine Girls, the Softies took pride in their outsider status and self-selecting audience, to the point that cuteness and kitsch felt like a sort of armor. “It always had to be a little bit too weird, a little bit too emotional, or a little bit too sensitive,” Jen explains.

The way Jen and Rose describe it, this disregard for fitting in or “making it” sounds so liberating. Part of why Rose had disbanded Tiger Trap was because she was uncomfortable with the amount of attention the band had gotten in a relatively short span of time. Collaborating as the Softies provided an opportunity to create, free from the scrutiny that comes with worrying about fame, marketability or reputation. They trusted that their music would find the audience that needed it, and it did—likely because they weren’t worrying about whether or not they were on-trend.

Funnily enough, the Softies were (and still are) notoriously beloved by fans of heavy music. When I saw them play in Portland last summer, tatted-up, leather-clad punks stood spiked-shoulder to shoulder with women in floral dresses and cat-eye glasses in the front row. Gen-X parents in their ripped jeans and flannel who’d probably seen the Softies back in the ‘90s were there with their kids. I saw at least one Black Flag shirt in the audience. I saw at least one grown man crying.

The Softies have accidentally become ambassadors to punk rock’s sensitive side—a role they’ve embraced wholeheartedly. “Sometimes I still ask people who love our band who are also hardcore punks, ‘What is it that you love about the Softies?’ ‘Cause punks love the Softies! And I still have yet to get a straight answer,” Rose explains. Jen offers a possible explanation: “I hear that it’s because hardcore guys are really just a bunch of softies, and our music helps them connect with their feelings.”

“I love that, because I feel more connected to punk,” Rose replies. “That’s what made me who I was—who I am. That shift in my mind and body. When music became paramount to my life was when I got into punk and it made me feel things in a different way. Punk made me feel this next level of things—teenage rage and injustice and all that. And I’m still that person. I love it when I see the guy with liberty spikes in a Softies T-shirt.”

But the Softies are more than just art therapy for hardened punks. The themes of their songs are timeless and universal—love, loss, anxiety, curiosity, hope. Both Jen and Rose feel grounded by playing songs from early in their career, cherishing the way that each one is like a little time capsule of a bygone emotional experience. They find unexpected wisdom in the lyrics they’ve written in the past. Being able to revisit their old songs—alongside the newer ones—allows them to connect with memories that might otherwise be hard to reach. Connection to the past, connection to the music and connection to each other are all inextricable. “Our friendship keeps us rooted in who we were at the time when we first met, in the best way, because it was such a creative time,” Rose says. “I feel like we had no responsibilities then,” Jen adds. “I mean, we had to work and pay rent. There’s so much that’s different now, so much more of life that’s happened.”

According to Rose, entering middle age isn’t all that different from entering adulthood: “It’s a lot of the same feelings: the unknown, fear, heartbreak, loss.” A lyric like “I lost something I never had, but I wanted it so bad I thought it might be fun to blow it up with you” off “Sigh, Sigh, Sigh” from The Bed I Made captures such volatile, even self-destructive feelings—the kind that seem intrinsically teenage or early-adult. But even the clarity and wisdom of growing further into adulthood can never completely pave over that sense of restlessness. I have to admit, it scares me a little, but a part of me finds it comforting. Either way, there’s always more to feel.

As for the old songs, Jen says that, to this day, she still hears the story of each one while she performs—that she relives the memories as she sings about them. It brings to mind the lyrics from “23rd Birthday,” my personal favorite track off of The Bed I Made: “When I close my eyes and harmonize with our song, I hear you sing along.” The second verse of that song made me tear up the first time I heard it; something about it unlocked a vague allusion to misplaced memories that I’d wanted more of, but when I’d tried to recall them in detail, the images only became more blurry. Like faded photographs out of time, “sometimes you’d wear two braids in your hair and smile with the rest of the band.”

When Jen recorded her vocals for “The Beginning of the End,” off 2000’s Holiday in Rhode Island she’d been crying. “Even though you’re not sniffling anymore, every time you sing that song, I still hear your tears,” Rose tells her. “That’s pretty intense,” Jen laughs. “We want everybody crying.” Rose brings up an anecdote about how, recently, Jen found her old tour diary from 1995 and shared it with her. “There was one amazing entry where she was like ‘Thank God we’ll never be popular and we don’t have to be rock stars, because playing rock clubs sucks!’” she says. The two of them burst out laughing, and Jen holds up her newest journal that she bought in anticipation of their upcoming tour.

“Every entry is just Jen complaining about the heat,” Rose says.

“It’s a lot of complaining,” Jen admits. “I’d never really experienced humidity before.”

Talking to Jen and Rose, I feel an impermeable sense of gratitude for the kind of partnership where you get to be the keeper of each other’s memories, holding onto them like clothes or books you’ve borrowed from one another and forgotten to give back. It makes me nostalgic, yes—for the days back when my own best friend and I were younger and less beholden to adult responsibilities—but more than that, it makes me excited for us to grow older together, to keep returning to one another over and over again and reminding each other of who we were and who we are.

Rose tells me that those early years of touring were fresh in her and Jen’s their minds when they came up with the music video concept for “California Highway 99”—the two of them on the road, untethered and reckless in a way that you can only afford to be when you’re young and stupid. “We told the animator all these things about what tour was like for us in the beginning and that’s what the music video captures—a tiny Geo Metro, just the two of us, Jen doing all the driving, me steering while she put her makeup on because I didn’t have a driver’s license at the time,” Rose says. “We were fearless. I cannot fucking believe we traveled accross the country in 1994—no thought to our safety or wellbeing, 22 and 24 years old, knowing nothing. We were just making our own rules. We always have.”


Grace Robins-Somerville is a writer from Brooklyn, New York, currently based in Wilmington, North Carolina. She is pursuing an MFA in Creative Nonfiction Writing from University of North Carolina, Wilmington. Her work has appeared in The Alternative, Merry-Go-Round Magazine, Post-Trash, Swim Into The Sound and her “mostly about music” newsletter, Our Band Could Be Your Wife.

 
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