What’s Going on with Ryan Gosling?

Maybe you’ve seen the things Ryan Gosling has been saying about his involvement with Greta Gerwig’s Barbie movie, and maybe you have the fortune of not being terminally online. If it’s the latter, allow me to explain. While doing the press circuit for the “visionary” Russo brothers’ new Netflix product—I mean movie, The Gray Man, which Gosling stars in, journalists have been unsurprisingly probing the actor about what it was like embodying the role of the Ken doll. Since set photos of the Little Women and Lady Bird director’s next film began tumbling out like a trail of neon pink breadcrumbs this summer, and since Gosling has been notoriously MIA from the film industry for the past four years, Gray Man junkets have been awash with eager questions about his far more interesting and exciting upcoming project.

Barbie is certainly the name on everyone’s mind. It’s very much on Gosling’s mind, maybe even more than his new film from two Marvel directors, one which seems to have already been promptly forgotten about over the weekend that it premiered on Netflix—even if it has already earned a sequel from the algorithm. As filming on Barbie wrapped this past week, Gosling—now free from cowboy hats, rollerblades and cut-off denim vests—can open up about the hotly anticipated film. And, boy, he sure is saying some…things!

Gosling has been fielding questions about Barbie as if he has been locked in a basement for the past four years, withheld food and sunlight, only now finally allowed to speak. He went on the defense during an interview with Jimmy Fallon about people “clutching their pearls” over the promotional image of him fully Kennified, “as though they ever thought about Ken for a second before this. They never played with Ken! Nobody plays with Ken, man.”

Heartbreaking stuff.

In that same interview, he reveals that he took “a Ken doll face down next to a squished lemon” in his backyard (which he provided a photo of) as a sign that he should take on the role back when it was offered to him. He then apparently texted Gerwig and said, “I shall be your Ken, for his story must be told.”

Then, in an interview with Entertainment Tonight, Gosling really goes off the rails. He coins the term “Ken-ergy,” which is something that he has. He uses the term multiple times during the interview. He claims that “Ken life is even harder than the Gray Man life, I think. Ken’s got no money, he’s got no job, he’s got no car, he’s got no house. He’s going through some stuff.”

He also says about the movie, being intentionally vague, “It’s not what you think it is, unless it is. And then you know what it is, but I don’t think that’s what you think it is. Wait, what are we talking about?” He was unable to reveal anything more about the film, because “Mattel would come and “box me up.” He also forebodingly told Good Morning America “It’s happening. It’s happening now. The Kens are everywhere.”