Sundance Preview: Director Damien Chazelle on Whiplash
All this week Paste is bringing you preview interviews with filmmakers who are taking their new films to Sundance. Damien Chazelle’s new film Whiplash stars Miles Tully and J.K. Simmons, and it’s been described as Full Metal Jacket at Julliard. We spoke with him about the film, Simmons’ inherent intimidatingness, what he’s looking forward to from the Sundance experience, and much more.
Paste Magazine: Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time this afternoon I’m sure ever since you got told that the film was going to be at Sundance, probably every day has been insane for you, I’m expecting.
Damien Chazelle: A little bit, in fact we just finished the mix last night, so I’m finally breathing a little bit.
Paste: Well let’s dive right into that. Speaking of the mix, it’s something slightly important that you get right in a music movie like this. So tell me about the challenge for recording sound, mixing sound, and making sure you’ve got it right. I’m sure that the music sounding exactly right for the emotional arc of the story that you’re telling is really crucial.
Chazelle: Totally. No, it was also, I had kind of a specific sound in mind that I wanted. The music in the movie is jazz, but it’s big band jazz. I wanted it to sound kind of like big band jazz sounds where you’re out in the same room with the musicians. It’s just kind of a bigger and fuller and louder and sort of more intense.
Paste: Kind of more immediate?
Chazelle: Yeah, more immediate, more visceral. You kind of think of jazz orchestras as kind of background music, and I wanted to make it the first showcase of something really, something that could really score like a thriller almost. Something that is really visceral, immediate and exciting. Especially from the vantage point of a drummer. It’s kind of the hardest music to kind of get right as a drummer, and this kind of showcases that. So I knew I didn’t want something that sounded canned or pre-recorded.
We worked a lot on pre-production when we were first kind of laying some of the pre-record tracks and we needed to hear that. Just figuring out what kind of mics and room tone to have, and the engineer that we worked with was just great. It helped as we were discussing beforehand exactly what part of the movie each number would be and what venue and what kind of space we wanted – in a rehearsal room or concert hall or a practice room, etc. They were very specific about having kind of how to bring some perspective to it. How to basically make everything sound like it was literally happening on the spot. And it was also a weird mix because some of the music in the movie is actually played live during production, some of it is pre-recorded playbacks, some of it was stuff that was post done— some of it that we did in post to match the picture. So it’s kind of like a weird three part mix that we all sort of had to combine.
Paste: Did Miles play some of the music? I assume he would have had to play some of the music himself. Was he a drummer already? Did he learn for the movie?
Chazelle: He’s a drummer already, and he had been playing since he was a teenager, but he never really did any formal training and he never had a lesson. And he certainly didn’t know jazz or the specific techniques. There were specific techniques that he needed to know for this movie that were not in his repertoire. So he had to do a lot of training and a lot of certain lessons and a lot of practicing in the months before the shoot. And then we kind of structured the shoot in such a way that mirrored the character’s growth as a drummer, so we sort of started with stuff earlier in this movie and did with a lot of the big music set pieces so he could kind of grow into part. He sort of busted his ass to learn everything. He was great.
Paste: Fantastic. Well we should probably skip back to the beginning, since most of the readers will not have seen this film when they read this interview. So just tell me a little bit about it — the funniest description I’ve seen is that it’s Full Metal Jacket at Julliard. Is that accurate?
Chazelle: Yeah, I’ve heard that and I’ve heard Full Metal Jacket meets Shine, which is also funny.