Catching Up With Wayne Coyne
Photo by George SalisburyWhat doesn’t Wayne Coyne have his hand in these days? The Flaming Lips frontman is rarely out of the spotlight, whether it’s with his day job, his new side project, Electric Wurms, or collaborating with folks like Miley Cyrus, My Morning Jacket or any number of his famous Fwends. We caught up with the fearless freak backstage at The Hangout Music Festival to get his take on modern celebrity and how he plans to change the world starting in Oklahoma City.
Paste: You are the busiest man in rock who’s not promoting an album. That seems to be your thing. Dude doesn’t rest.
Wayne Coyne: I guess. Promoting albums now…I mean, we put out a lot of stuff. I think it’s still true for some big acts, where you put out a record and tour the world for five years, then you get together and you put out another one, but really starting a couple years ago, we didn’t really want to do that anymore. I mean, for us, it got to be a little bit boring. Whatever we wanted to do more in that time, we would just start to do it. And it got to be more manageable for us to put them out when we felt like it, as opposed to getting in line in the slot.
Paste: Doing the campaign.
Coyne: Yeah, with the big major label and all that. That’s one of the things that we didn’t like about being on Warner Bros. all the time. It’s just this giant machine, and it takes six months to get anything going. And little by little, I think the way we worked out our contract and stuff like that, I think really suits us now. We do a lot of stuff.
Paste: And it’s fun to watch and to listen. What you do isn’t the normal stuff. Do you ever get worried that the story is bigger than the music? Because there’s a lot to write about with you guys.
Coyne: Not really. I mean, to me, music without all this other stuff, it alone doesn’t have the personality. I mean, there’s a lot of groups that I’ll hear their music and not really get it until you see them, or you read something about them, or they’re involved in something and you see a little bit more about what they’re about. I think all of that is wonderful. One of the most public groups out there ever would be a group like The Beatles. I would say for my own take, the more that I knew about them, the more that I loved them. You really understood what their music and their art was about. I never fear that, but I’m not really trying to do that. Sometimes I just think to talk about music, it’s just kind of dumb.
Paste: As in, you can’t tell me where it comes from, etc.
Coyne: It’s like, no one’s going to talk about notes and amplifiers, chords or recording studios. In a sense that’s not really what music is. Music is this life, and this is something that you get to listen to that tells you about the life. I would say that I live a lot of life.
Paste: It’s a good lifestyle.
Coyne: It’s great!
Paste: There’s something you’ve been doing that’s definitely interesting. I won’t call it down time, since there never seems to be that. You wrote an April Fools’ or an April 1 note about celebrity. Yet you’ve really positioned yourself with celebrity. It’s a really interesting…contradiction isn’t the right word.
Coyne: Right. I mean, the way they presented it…
Paste: We’re talking Kesha, Miley and all of that.
Coyne: Right. Some of comedy is so close, when you’re in it, you can see it’s so close, it’s almost true at the same time. I know the power of these silly things like Twitter and Instagram. Anybody can go on there and if they want to make a story out of it, they can. They don’t have to call you up or be a publicist or anything. I like that. I think it was three or four years ago at least, when I noticed people were doing that in the newspapers and the free entertainment things around Oklahoma City. They wouldn’t really do an interview with Lady Gaga, but they could write articles about her all day because it’s on her Twitter and Instagram, so it must be true. But I thought that was great, because you could just start to say, “I think this is interesting today. I’m doing this and if you’re interested, you can see what I’m doing.” I think with a group like The Flaming Lips, I think seeing how we do it, seeing what we started to do, and then three weeks later, here’s what it ends up being, if you’re a young artist wondering, “how do you do stuff,” I think it’d be wonderful to follow us. We started to do this, and that didn’t work out. It’s great to be able to change your mind. You’re not a fool if the idea didn’t work out. That’s what all art is.