Die Spitz: The Best of What’s Next

RIYL: Lambrini Girls, Deftones, The Pinky Rings

Die Spitz: The Best of What’s Next

In a city as creatively fertile as Austin, winning Album of the Year at the local music awards is a coveted feat. So when Die Spitz, the brainchild of rule-breaking, foul-mouthed twenty-somethings Ava Schrobilgen, Chloe De St. Aubin, Eleanor Livingston, and Kate Halter, took home the prize in 2024 for Teeth, beating out the likes of Being Dead, Tele Novella, BLK ODYSSY, and Nemegata, it felt like a comfirmation: A younger crop of musicians was going to shape Austin’s multi-generational musical identity and scenes for many years to come. But what nobody mentions, however, is that Teeth was not just an EP, but a batch of seven tracks that could hang with whatever Black Pumas or Fuck Money were putting out. “Hair of Dog,” “My Hot Piss,” and “i hate when GIRLS die” are all one-of-one, no-fuss, terrifically modern punk classics.

“What if, for this one, they’re like, ‘Eh, it’s too long,’” Schrobilgen jokes, referring to Die Spitz’s debut full-length, the brand-new and obliterating Something to Consume. But history says otherwise, as the band has won seven awards in three years. And Die Spitz recognize that praise, for better or for worse. “This city supports us with everything they have,” Schrobilgen goes on, before pausing. “We also have our biggest haters here. It’s very interesting going to the grocery store sometimes.” The band doesn’t indulge me on what those encounters are like, aside from receiving some “stank looks” from their high school classmates.

Schrobilgen and Livingston, the two guitarist/vocalists who comprise Die Spitz’s thrashing binary, knew each other first, meeting in ballet class when they were three years old and performing “‘Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star,’ or something” together. Livingston says she’s always looked up to Schrobilgen, because she would “dress in Target boys clothes.” “I was like, ‘That’s so fire,’” she remembers. “And now, I still hold that admiration for her, but watching her play and write music.” The duo went to the same elementary school and took the same music classes. “[Eleanor] sang really well and she got to go on stage to do ‘The Clam Dance,’” Schrobilgen recalls. “I was really sad, because she got to go on the stage for ‘The Clam Dance’ and I didn’t. But I pretended to not care. I was a slacker even in kindergarten.”

Eventually, Livingston’s dad introduced Schrobilgen to Black Sabbath’s music, and when Livingston, they’d drive around, smoke a lot of weed, and listen to the Grateful Dead. Halter, who befriended Schrobilgen and Livingston in middle school, was in the picture by this point, too. “The three of us had a huge Grateful Dead era,” Livingston says. “I don’t know how that translates at all, but it’s weird.” You’re certainly not going to hear much Jerry Garcia in Die Spitz. But Halter did learn how to play bass so she could be in the band. In her past, she “dabbled in violin” before Schrobilgen and Livingston, in their own words, “made her learn the bass.” “She had no choice,” Schrobilgen laughs. There are some whispers in the chat of Halter learning to play accordion for a future “vamp-anthem, Davy Jones-esque” Die Spitz song, but I wouldn’t take the band at their word on that.

De St. Aubin, who didn’t save a Grateful Dead song onto her phone until a year ago, went to a different high school but knew of the girls through Instagram. “Sitting in chemistry, I heard [their music] and was like, ‘Oh, my God, they’re so hot. I was in love with all of them,” she says. “I remember wishing I would be their friend one day… and then I forgot.” Three years ago, her friend—and former bandmate—Molly Masson, the vocalist in Farmer’s Wife (FKA Sludge), heard that Die Spitz were looking to add a new member. “She was like, ‘Oh, my friends Die Spitz need a drummer.’ And I was like, ‘No fucking way!’ But then I also forgot that happened, because I hadn’t heard from them in a few weeks. Then I got a call from the Boogeyman, like forty missed calls. I kept declining them, because I was scared in my house alone. And it was Ellie calling me. They had COVID and said, ‘Can you still practice?’”

A crucial detail in all of this is that Livingston’s screen name for her outgoing calls was “The Boogeyman.” When she started Die Spitz, she didn’t want anyone to know her actual name. “I thought that’d be really awesome and mysterious,” she admits, chuckling. “But then it fucked us over. Now every article is wrong. I won’t get credit for doing something.” There was one show in particular where a flu-addled Livingston’s antics, climbing the rafters at Stubb’s Bar-B-Q in a feverish delirium, was credited to Halter. “I was like, ‘Fuck my life, I tried so hard to put on a show!’” she howls. “But that’s actually, like, totally my fault.” None of the other band members had pseudonyms like Livingston, but Schrobilgen has aspirations of going by the name “White Chedda.” Before they called themselves Die Spitz, which is German for “the pointed,” the girls thought about calling themselves Pig Pen, which Livingston swears chef/actor Matty Matheson “stole from her brain.” De St. Aubin says she didn’t like The Bear. “Industry words!” Schrobilgen belts out.

CHECK ANY DIE SPITZ BIO online and you’ll probably encounter some sort of anecdote about the foursome watching the Mötley Crüe biopic The Dirt and deciding to “start a band after a late-night viewing” of it. Funnily enough, the entire band hates that movie and calls Mötley Crüe “the worst kind of people.” “It’s really fucking embarrassing,” Livingston says. “I don’t want that to be our origin story.” So, in an effort to clear the air and wipe the slate clean, I ask the band for their real origin story. “We’re all sisters,” Halter declares, to which Livingston expands, “We’re all sisters born from Keith Morris [of Black Flag] and my hot mom.” Apparently, at a merch table during South by Southwest, this was a point of controversy. “Some guy randomly came up to my mom at the merch table and was like, ‘Hey, you know Die Spitz?’ And she was like, ‘Yeah.’ And he said, ‘Yeah, I’m a big fan of them, but my sister’s not, because they’re, like, nepo babies. I heard that Keith Morris is their dad.’” Schrobilgen argues that what’s especially great about that story is: Livingston and her mom look so much alike that “you’d have to be an idiot” to ask if she knows who Die Spitz is.

Since releasing the Revenge of Evangeline EP in November 2022, Die Spitz has established itself as one of the best live acts in Austin, playing gigs with bands like Sleater-Kinney and Amyl & The Sniffers, to name a few. But Livingston is quick to note that their first shows were “really fucking bad.” Halter concurs, “We were playing badly. We were disrespecting the establishment. I’m surprised they let us back now. We were such assholes.” Despite their urges to rewrite their own history, Die Spitz’s beginnings weren’t a total antithesis of Mötley Crüe. Halter would wear a trench coat with “a handle of Tito’s and cranberry juice” tied up to look like “she had two giant tits,” and the whole band would get shit-faced in venue bathrooms, because they were rarely allowed in green rooms as teenagers. They were granted green room access one time, and Livingston reveals that she used it as an opportunity to get incredibly “fucked up,” much to the immediate regret of the in-house staff. “I will say,” Halter adds, “getting all of that out of the way while we were playing like shit and playing for fun and getting all the belligerence out of the way has been really good for our career, so the British people are doing it right.” Now, Livingston gestures, they all just read books and geek out about nature backstage.

The characters who show up to Die Spitz shows are vast: young girls, frat guys, old men “that come to the very front” of the pit. The latter aren’t necessarily the “arms-crossed, standing still” type like most show-going men of a certain flavor. Instead, “it’s these fucking old men, and they come so early,” Livingston explains. “And they stand there and get their phones out just to film the whole set with a frown on their face.” Schrobilgen wonders if a majority of them have “creepy intentions,” because they’re smiling and taking pictures of Livingston’s chest, though Livingston clarifies that that’s not the case for everyone. “We have some kick-ass old-dude fans who are like, ‘This is like seeing Nirvana for the first time!’ They’re sick.” The band hopes that, at the very least, Something to Consume will cast some of those dudes away and bring in more folks that they want to play for—folks who are closer to their age.

“I love having such a wide variety of people who enjoy our music, and I hope that everybody keeps coming to our shows,” Schrobilgen says. “I just need them to scoot back.”

“I mean, the creepy ones can fucking go, though,” Livingston affirms. “There was a show that happened where, at the end, we were like, ‘Girls to the front!’ All the girls started pushing them. That was sick.”

There was, however, someone—a “fat-booty-buh-judy”—who jumped up onstage and started “shaking ass” on De St. Aubin’s ride cymbal, knocking her shit around. And this happened twice, mind you. “I actually want someone to throw ass on Chloe’s drums,” Livingston smiles, “but in a way that she can still play.”

“Why do you think Austin is such a good place to start a band?” I ask the girls. “There’s so many opportunities to play a show,” Livingston replies. “There’s so many shows going on, and there’s so many promoters that are in bands. There’s so many bands! There’s so many bigger bands, so you have all these opportunities to try to make a name for yourself in some way.” It’s not just the capital of Texas, after all. Austin, the so-called “live music capital of the world,” is the kind of place where every bar in town has a stage, which Schrobilgen admits she “didn’t even know wasn’t a thing in most cities.”

When she was a kid, Livingston watched her dad play in a funk group. Halter was the same way, growing up with a dad who was in a grunge band. “You grow up around live music, and that’s a big part of what inspired us,” Schrobilgen adds. “None of my family played music, but my neighbor played, and he’s an incredible guitar player. His practice room was right by where my bedroom was. There was an alley between us, and I would fall asleep listening to him play guitar all the time. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, that he could play that well. Now, he fixes all of my shit whenever it breaks. Shout out.”

NOT EVERY GIRL-LED PUNK BAND wants to be a political band, but Die Spitz were quickly put into that box, even though they “weren’t trying to write punk music” when they formed. Livingston says that the political themes on Something to Consume, like De St. Aubin’s explosive, frustrated “Voir Dire,” are there because “we care about shit and this is a time to give a fuck,” and that idea is capstoned by the lines “This life is a tragedy, you can get what you want but you’ll beg for what you need.” But Die Spitz wasn’t formed to be some riot grrrl proxy for Gen-Z. “I love Bikini Kill, but that’s not what we are,” Livingston spells out. “It was annoying for people to tell us that’s what we were. It was like, ‘All right, we’re just all girls, bro.’” Still, the powers that be think they’ve got Die Spitz pinned down; “Groping Dogs Gushing Blood” has shown up on various Spotify riot grrrl playlists for two years. But Something to Consume isn’t one dimensional; these songs crush, vibrate, weep, drift, and holler across octaves.

And while the lyrical template of riot grrrl music—anti-patriarchal, anti-sexist, anti-misogynist, and anti-racist expressions—still persists in Die Spitz’s own, they’re not going to let a label like that discourage them from telling their own story, no matter how gruesome or hair-raising it gets. “We’re not going to not write about something that’s happened to us,” Livingston says. “We’re not gonna stray away from that just because we’re scared of people putting us in that box. They already did at that point. Just write what you care about and what you’re feeling. I don’t think there’s any use worrying if someone’s going to call it that or not, because they probably are. So, might as well just write what you can, right?” Perhaps a better label for Die Spitz would be “bad-bitch band,” escalated by Livingston’s habit of climbing shit, jumping into crowds, and “acting like men do,” because she wants to be an “Ozzy, Eddie Vedder-type motherfucker” for women.

The influences behind Something to Consume are vast, ranging from King Krule, Twilight, and julie to Nirvana, skramz, doom metal, and emo music, culminating in the wailing “Throw Yourself to the Sword,” the overdriven and gauzy “Pop Punk Anthem,” the sobering, romantic “Punishers,” and the ambient zenith “a strange moon/selenophilia.” Then there’s “Riding With My Girls” and “American Porn,” two songs that yell in all-caps. And then there’s my favorite transition, when “Go Get Dressed” leads into “Red40.” The sequencing is a choice that brings to mind some of Livingston’s favorite albums, which, she reckons, are the ones that “ebb and flow.” Die Spitz are four musicians who use their differences in taste and application to their advantage; “It shows that we know how to tell a story and make a really cool, dynamic album that’s like nothing you’ve ever heard before,” Livingston declares.

Something to Consume was produced by the great Will Yip, the guy behind the boards on seminal rock albums like Turnover’s Peripheral Vision, Glass Beach’s Plastic Death, TURNSTILE’s NEVER ENOUGH, Title Fight’s Floral Green, and damn near every Circa Survive project since the early 2010s. His taste for loudness and ability to harness it was an attractive talent, and the band “knew that he would capture our sound really well,” Schrobilgen says. “We had heard great things about him from other people but, when we met him, we were like, ‘Oh, my God, this guy’s awesome.’ He’s the easiest guy to work with, he’s so excited about everything. He’s open to new ideas, and he got the exact sound we wanted.” Yip got the band thinking about the technical sides of songwriting, perceptions, and algorithms, a far-cry from their roots, which involved no formal training whatsoever. He was a true editor too, especially in the pre-production phase, where he cut up and trimmed the fat around Die Spitz’s songs before the girls even sat down to record them.

Schrobilgen admits that she can be pretty stubborn about her creative process, and recording “Red40,” which she’s dubbed “her baby,” first set a precedent for what came after. “I love to hear everybody’s ideas on things but, if I think something’s right, then I’m gonna fight for it,” she recalls. “[Yip] was like, ‘I wanted to change this.’ And I was like, ‘I don’t want to do this.’ But he was like, ‘Let’s just try it.’ And we played it the way that he wanted it, he extended the end of the chorus, and I was like, ‘Goddamn it, this sounds so much better.’ It was super easy, from then on, to trust his opinion on things. There are things we fought against. But he’s a genius.”

Making Something to Consume reinforced the trust shared between Schrobilgen, Livingston, Halter, and De St. Aubin. They take each other seriously, which rubs off on the people around them, like Yip or their label, Third Man Records, and they hold a mutual level of respect that enables them to move through songwriting with care and efficiency. “It’s always a good thing to be vulnerable, and I think we always have been, because we connect with each other so well and we always say the band is founded on friendship, which is entirely true,” De St. Aubin says. “We’re lucky, because most bands can’t say that.” Schrobilgen concurs: “These are my three best friends. I trust them the most out of anyone I know. We’re lucky to have a band, instead of just being in a band.”

Matt Mitchell is Paste’s music editor, reporting from their home in Los Angeles.

 
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